http://uk.reuters.com/news/video/popup?videoId=87140&pos=10.733&vol=100&popPlayer=true&videoChannel=1

http://turenet.blog91.fc2.com/blog-entry-2915.html

It may be their eating raw bowels of wild bird that bird-flu spreads from Korea.

Next site is for yesterday’s post.

http://bbs.enjoykorea.jp/tbbs/read.php?board_id=pfree&page=3&nid=368782&start_range=368775&end_range=368790

Once Korea ordered the ambassador home, he should not go back to Japan as far as she dose not excuse.

Rught now,Taiwanese politicians belongs to Kuomintang are flaming Anti-Japanese sentiment over the Senkakus,because they have been under criticism from the oppostion that newly elected KMT president may compromise too much to Beijing and hurts the Taiwanese sovereignity.So they are using the occasion of the boat accident in the Senkakus and demanding tougher policy toward Tokyo like recalling the envoy and calling for deployment of a frigate.Doing so,they can shift the argument from protecting Taiwan from China to protecting Taiwan from Japan.
The prime minister of Legistrative Yuan of Taiwan even spoke about military engagement with Japan.
This is almost identical situation with South Korea in 1954.The Korean president at the time,Syngman Rhee was basically imcompetent in running government for he was chosen solely for being Anti-Japanese activist.Rhee,though himself was an anti-Japanese,nonetheless had many aides who also served to colonial office of Korean Government general for their ability in legislative skills.But these are the people whom seen as collaborator to general Korean public.

So when the Korean war was over,lots of anti-Rhee sentiment that had been contained during the war with Pyongyang had came out and brought political upheaval.Eventually led Rhee to take advantage of the opportunity that the U.S ending the Japanese occupation and seized Takeshima(which was used as the point of target practice by American Navy and Airforce).Rhee legitimaize this act by bringing up the some of the logics Steve had showned us.

This is all the legacy of symbol manipulation from autoctrat days.But in fragile democratic politics of South Korea and Taiwan,Japan bashing always pays.

The Korean’s don’t need “photoshopped” photos to prove Dokdo’s visibility from Ulleungdo. This fact was recorded in Korean historical documents and by the 1903 Black Dragon Fishing manual.

http://www.dokdo-takeshima.com/black-dragon-1903-1.jpg

It reads.
“…About 30-ri south-east of Ulleungdo, and almost the same distance north-west from Japan’s Oki county, there is an uninhabited island. One can see it from the highest point of 山峯 (mountain) in Ulleungdo when the weather is fine.

Aceface, a Japanese person did set up a sealing factory. It was Nakai Yozaburo. Do you know where his “seal factory” was…?

It was on Korea’s Ulleungdo Island. Nakai Yozaburo was a fisherman from Shimane Prefecture. He was one of around 1000 Japanese illegal squatters who were illegally residing on Korea’s Ulleundo Island. He was part of Japanese civilian invasion of Korean territory.

This map from 1905 shows the Japanese illegal villages on Korea’s Ulleungdo. The double circles show where these squatters lived. You can also see the “X” where the Japanese Naval watchtowers were installed 望樓

Nakia Yozaburo did his sealing from his illegal base on Korea’s Ulleungdo Island and would stay on Takeshima for a few days and then return. Takeshima has no fresh water or shelter. The logbooks of the warship Niitaka recorded this.

http://www.dokdo-takeshima.com/dokdo-x-files.html

Korea demanded these Japanese leave Ulleungdo for many years and had them forcibly removed in 1883 but the Japanese continued to trespass there. All through the late 19th Century and early 1900s the Japanese were illegally fishing and residing on Ulleungdo. The Japanese were also indiscriminately logging there. Japanese logging on Ulleungdo continued even after the Russians were granted the concession to do so in 1895.

Here is a great image of the Japanese Police stationed on Korea’s Ulleungdo in 1902. The Koreans demanded the removal of them but to no avail.

http://www.dokdo-takeshima.com/ulleungdo-police.jpg

Aceface, Nakai Yozaburo’s application for Takeshima was guided by a few people.

The first was Yamaza Enjiro who was known to be an active member of the Black Ocean society. (Genyosha) These guys hard-core right winger expansionist who used spies and organized crime to advance on the Asian mainland. They made the Yakuza look like Girl Scouts.

The second man who was involved was Keigo Kiyourga. This man was a supporter of the Yamagata Faction. They were also hardcore expansionists who favoured a hard line policy toward annexing Korea (they were very critical of Hirobumi)

The third man was Komura Jutaro who was the Foreign Minister and probably one of the most instrumental people involved in the annexation of Korea in 1910 along with Katsura. He was also involved in securing most of the treaties that secured Japanese control over Korea such as the Anglo Japan Alliance, Portsmouth, and the Shimonoseki Treaty.

The last person was Kimotsuki Kenko who was the Director of Japan’s Naval Hydrographic Department. Of course Japan was at war at the time and Kenko was very instrumental in surveying the island for watchtowers and radio telegraph lines.

Aceface states “ever hear of “ex-post facto law”? I dunno Aceface did you ever hear of “uti possidetis” Don’t even get me started on the legal problems with Japan’s 1905 incorporation. The ICJ? Don’t make me laugh. Japan refuses to go to the ICJ on her territorial disputes, so it’s pretty ballsy of them to cry foul on the Koreans. This is a problem for Japan and Korea to settle.

Ampontan, Anyongbok voyaged to Japan to dispute Japanese trespassing on Ulluengdo Island. He presented a document stating 竹島 (Takeshima/Ulleungdo) and 松島 (Matsushima/Dokdo) were part of 江原道 (Korea’s Gangwando Province. These documents were found in the Murakawa household records in 2005. You can see the document here.

http://www.dokdo-takeshima.com/anyongbok-doc15.jpg

Whatever, the Japanese say the identity of these islands were, we know Anyongbok claimed Matsushima (then Dokdo) as part of Korea. From here the Japanese raised no objections at all and issued a travel ban to Ulleungdo. Japanese say because there was no travel ban to Matsushima (Dokdo) itself this means the island was their land. The truth is Japanese never voyaged 5 days return to these barren rocks EVER. It was pointless. The Japanese only voyaged to Dokdo en route to illegally plunder the rich forests and fishing grounds of Chosun’s Ulleungdo Island. These clandestine voyages to Ulleungdo continued even after the Shogunate explicitly forbid them to.

In fact when a Japanese merchant named Aizuya Hacheimon was caught trespassing on Ulleungdo in 1836 he was executed by the Shogunate. During his trial he presented this color coded map of the region showing the territorial perceptions of Japanese before the Meiji Era.

http://www.dokdo-takeshima.com/trespass-map.jpg

Bender, what is this “trap” I’m leading people on this forum into? Why does introducing the historical facts of Japan’s 1905 incorporation amount to “enticing ethno-hatred”? Professor Shimojo insists we use Japan’s 1905 as basis for her to claim sovereignty, I say this is a flawed approach to solving the Dokdo Takeshima Problem.

Above I gave reasons why the current boundary between Korea and Japan is more than fair. If those on this forum continue to cite historical records as to why Japan should still have Takeshima, they shouldn’t blubber when I counter with facts and documents that show the truth.

The lessons of WWII were supposed to favor tolerance and cosmopolitanism, not some warped formed of ethnocentric nationalism. I’m pretty confident Japan is doing better. Japan’s neighbors?…oh boy.

I said “thesis”,Steve.”theory”is your word.

“Professor Shimojo wants us to believe during the historical backdrop, the Japanese Government felt an urgent need to claim Dokdo to wack seals. This is pretty shameful.”

Is it? Setting up a watch post in your territory is one thing.Annexing a country is another.Your argument is pretty much the same as saying “Wyoming voters are responsible for starting Iraq war,since they’ve send Dick Cheney to the capitol hills in 1978″.
There are facts and indeed some connection between them,but I’d still say there are some leap in the logic.

And Steve,It’s no seal,It was Japanese Sea Lion (Zalophus japonicus),the fishermen were wacking in Taleshima.

“Thus we know, Japan’s annexation of Liancourt was a military acquisition. International law states territorial land acquisitions must be part of a “natural and peaceful process…” (ICJ Max Huber)”

But there is a record that a Japanese businessman had established a fishery house in 1903 to catch Japanese Sea Lions and he have also sent letters of request for permission to interior/foreign/agricultural/ministers of Japan.

And what do you make of “Syngman Rhee line” was formed by military force in 1952? And Korean coast guards dispatching garrison in 1954?

Going by your logic,aren’t these land acquisitions,forceful? Afterall some Japanese fishermen were killed in the process.

“Anyway, citing the “international law” the Europeans (and Japan) applied a century ago to carve up Asia, South America, Africa and Australasia won’t work to solve the Dokdo Takeshima dispute”

Ever heard of “Ex post facto law”?

Anyway Japan proposes to take the case to the International court of Justice since 1954…

Japan’s policy with regard to outlying islands is to declare every rock the size of a bedroom (Okinotoroshimas, Marcus Island) as EEZs.

At least they’re declaring islands that actually exist. During the SF treaty negotiations, the Koreans claimed an island that was no longer there. It sunk.

Take a look at the East Sea, you will see that Dokdo Island is much closer (within visual distance) of Ulleungdo Island.

The East Sea? Whatever do you mean? There’s no body of water with that name in this part of the world.

http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/still-the-sea-of-japan/

Within visual distance? Please, no links to that photoshopped picture.

When Japan and Korea disputed the sovereignty of Ulleong about 300 years ago, however, the Koreans at that time interpreted the same passage to mean that Ulleong was visible from Ulsan on the Korean Peninsula to stake their claim to Ulleong. The same text has been used to claim Korean sovereignty over both Ulleong and Takeshima. This is evidence that the self-contradictory Korean positions present a problem for their interpretation.

Moreover, the policy used for islands when compiling the Dongguk Yeoji Seungnam and the Sejong Sillok Jiriji was to record the distance and direction from the government authority with jurisdiction. Ulleong is far from Ulsan Province, making actual measurements difficult. Therefore, the expression “visible” was used to express the distance from Ulsan to Ulleong. In that event, the Usan visible in the Dongguk Yeoji Seungnam and other sources is a small island near Ulleong.

In fact, An Yong-bok stated that Usan was northeast of Ulleong. A look at the map reveals that Takeshima is roughly to the southeast of Ulleong. Therefore, the Usan that An Yong-bok saw was Chikusho (now Chikuto, or Jukto in Korean), near Ulleong.

That from the Mainichi article at the top of the page.