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Japanese students dumbed down to Western levels

Posted by ampontan on Tuesday, March 25, 2008

A GENERATION AGO, Japanese educators were desperate to reform the country’s educational system by incorporating the approach and some of the principles used in American schools. Last week’s report on the results of a survey conducted by the Association of Japanese Geographers seems to indicate they have achieved their objective. Japanese students are now just as ill-informed as any in the West.

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The association surveyed the geographical knowledge of 6,150 students in 51 high schools in seven prefectures, and 3,747 university students from 31 institutions nationwide. None of them had specifically studied the subject in school. It was the association’s second such survey; the first was conducted in 2005.

The students took a test in which they were presented with a world map on which 30 countries were identified with numbers. They were asked to provide the names of 10 specified countries.

The country that gave the students the most trouble was Iraq, as only 26% knew its location. They fared only slightly better with Switzerland, which was correctly identified by 38%, and Vietnam, which was known by 39%. The highest recognition score was the one for the United States; 86% of the students could find that country.

One could view the results from the opposite direction, of course, and note that as many as 14% of Japanese students were in the dark about America’s place in the world.

In a way, the low score for Iraq might not be all that surprising. One would hope students were familiar enough with current events–indeed, a highly controversial hot war–to identify that country on a map. But for some Japanese to fail to pay close attention to trouble spots overseas is an old phenomenon. This is exemplified by the expression, taigan no kaji, or a fire on the opposite shore. In other words, why worry–nothing’s burning down in our neighborhood.

It is worthwhile to note the inclusion of Switzerland in the survey and the difficulty students had identifying it. The Japanese have had an idealized view of Switzerland and its scenic beauty for several decades. It was a country many Japanese wanted to visit before vacations in Europe became generally affordable, and now that traveling abroad is no longer a financial hardship, Switzerland has become a popular tourist destination—for older people.

The association’s survey, conducted from last December to February, also contained a similar test for Japanese prefectures (which are the equivalent of states or provinces). The test asked them to name 10 prefectures on a map identified by number.

The prefecture with the lowest recognition rate was Miyazaki, down in Kyushu, whose location was familiar to only 43% of the students. Ehime was correctly identified by only 50% of the students, and Shimane by 52%. A total of 93% knew the location of Tokyo.

And of course that means 7% of the students couldn’t find Japan’s capital and largest city.

The people who wrote the newspaper report were somewhat surprised by the low recognition numbers for Miyazaki. While it is a smaller rural prefecture in the southern part of the country, its governor for the past year, Higashikokubaru Hideo, is a former comedian. His election and activities in office have received extensive coverage in all the media.

The association concluded from these results that it was “necessary to improve education in geography for recognizing information on a map.”

That’s an understandable reaction, and one that people in any country would support, but the recognition numbers for Tokyo might suggest there are other factors involved.

Being familiar with Tokyo’s location really should be unrelated to the amount of geographical education students receive in schools, particularly university students. It’s not possible to watch the news on television—heck, it’s not possible to watch television—without seeing a national weather map several times a day on every station. Tokyo is clearly shown on every one of those maps, and the capital’s weather for the day is always a subject, regardless of where the news is being broadcast.

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This calls to mind another public opinion survey conducted in 1968 in the United States during the presidential election campaign that year. The Vietnam War was at its height, and Senator Eugene McCarthy, a Democrat from Minnesota, ignited national debate by challenging President Lyndon Johnson in the Democratic primaries on the country’s participation in the conflict and his conduct of it. Another Democrat, Alabama Governor George Wallace, a segregationist, ran as a third party candidate. If anything, the candidates that year were even more familiar than Clinton, Obama, and McCain are now.

A candidate recognition survey that year found that 5% of Americans confused Eugene McCarthy with Joe McCarthy, and George Wallace with Henry Wallace.

Joseph McCarthy, of course, was a Republican senator from Wisconsin who held highly charged public hearings of Communist infiltration at the highest levels of government, and who was later censured by the Senate for playing fast and loose with the facts. Meanwhile, Henry Wallace was vice-president during Franklin Roosevelt’s third term. He was later to run for president on the leftist Progressive Party ticket, and his political positions are the farthest left of anyone elected to the executive branch of national government in the U.S. Historians are still unsure whether he himself was a communist before he rejected Stalin in 1950, or whether he just had a lot of Red friends.

In either event, both were dead in 1968, and it would be very difficult for anyone not in a coma to confuse their views with those of the people who shared their surnames.

Therefore, what the Japanese geographical survey and the American political survey seem to suggest is that the default figures for the people who go through their lives in a perpetual fog is about 5% to 7%.

While Japan would benefit from undoing some of the educational reforms of the 90s, it should be obvious there is a segment of the population in any country that education will never reach.

15 Responses to “Japanese students dumbed down to Western levels”

  1. Ry Says:

    left out that the test was given in English.

  2. KokuRyu Says:

    Japan still ranks in the top five (OECD) for math and science outcomes, and generally competes with Korea, Finland, and Canada (the fifth country in this cohort usually changes from year to year).

    Where Japan can improve its academic performance is in the area of special needs learners, specifically students with common learning (not cognitive) disabilities. There is very little understanding, and therefore little support for these learners, compared to, say, Canada (that’s where I’m from and where I was trained as a social studies teacher).

  3. ampontan Says:

    RY: Didn’t leave it out–didn’t know it, or didn’t see it in the Japanese article.

    Why would that make a difference, however? How difficult can the question be?

  4. Overthinker Says:

    Well, lots of Japanese know “Swiss” but do not know “Switzerland”….

    I’d want to see the results from this test going back a decent while before I would worry about them getting dumber, as opposed to being just dumb in the first place. Some people are also very poor at reading maps. This doesn’t necessarily mean that they are dumb or anything, but lack the ability. To play the devil’s advocate for a bit, you could always wonder if they really need to know where Iraq is on a map. I doubt many of them will ever try to navigate their way there. Modern transport is typified by the London or Tokyo underground maps - abstract designs that show locations in terms of how to get there, rather than actual geographical locations.

    Personally I think this is still a situation that should be corrected, but then I have been a fan of maps for a long time indeed, and can’t understand why anyone would not want to know how they work.

    Incidentally, the National Geographic regularly runs columns on the geographical ignorance of Americans, and we must not forget that TV quiz show contest whose video was so popular on YouTube recently.

    And talking of Swissy-land, you might like to add a line or two mentioning the anime series “Heidi” (アルプスの少女ハイジ)that was responsible for so much of the image of the country.

  5. ampontan Says:

    O: About the Heidi part, I thought about it, but I sometimes leave stuff out to keep from going all over the place. I think it’s mentioned in the link to the BBC article, so I did it that way instead.

    When I told my Japanese friends in the US that I had been hired for a job in Saga, all but one said, Saga? Where is that? (The only one who knew was from Hiroshima.) I explained to them it was between Fukuoka and Nagasaki Prefectures, and one guy (from Tokyo) said, “There’s nothing between Fukuoka and Nagasaki Prefectures.” You can imagine how that story went over here.

    Still, I find some of this hard to fathom. For one of my college courses, I had to draw a map of the continental US freehand and label all 48 states. Knowing the states was the easy part. Drawing the New England states in the proper proportion and not flipping Vermont and New Hampshire was the tough part. But I still knew where they all generally were.

  6. Overthinker Says:

    I just read the BBC article, and yes, the Heidi connection is big there.

    This is also interesting, and very true: “”And tonight, their package tour has reserved tables for them at the Japanese restaurant in the town.”"
    Seems like pretty much every Japanese package tour features Japanese (or at least Chinese) food at some stage on the tour, just because these people can’t survive without rice and miso. That I find hard to fathom. Even when I saw an American bite into a McDonalds’ cheeseburger after less than a week in Japan, I still don’t get it….

    ““There’s nothing between Fukuoka and Nagasaki Prefectures.” You can imagine how that story went over here.”

    Hmmmmm… Having driven through Saga on my way from Fukuoka pref to Nagasaki pref, I am tempted to agree, but then I don’t doubt that I passed through a very drab part of the place. Just one long road lined with car dealerships and a decentish-sized You-Me shopping centre. And a truly arse ramen place that was at least dirt cheap (and tasted the same). But the prize for least-interesting place in Kyushu goes to Miyazaki - both my tour guidebooks gave it the least amount of room (in one, the Mapple one I think, half the space was about SeaGaia anyway).

  7. Ken Says:

    I would ascribe declined scholarship of Japanese students to lessened knowledge education for whitewashing to let kids think.
    I suppose kids can little think by themselves yet and there are more essential knowledge to cram during flexible brain.
    The Japanese had to learn geography, international affairs or so to sell abroad compared with Americans but the necessity is decreasing.
    However, Japanese people would be still able to draw the map of US more precisely than American people draw the map of Japan.
    Considerale Mid-west and South Americans are thinking Japan is attaching to China, aren’t they?
    It is ironical that such rural South conservatists of no direction sense are now controlling the US and the world.

  8. James A Says:

    Thank goodness I wasn’t born in some obscure rural town. All I have to tell people is that I live in the big city south of LA. Then again, San Diego does attract plenty of tourists from Japan. I was actually a bit surpried how many Japanese know where Tijuana is.

  9. ampontan Says:

    O: In some ways, the most interesting parts of Saga are not in Saga City (Arita, etc.) SeaGaia, IIRC, is now belly-up and they’re trying to figure out what to do with it.

  10. Bender Says:

    All I have to tell people is that I live in the big city south of LA.

    The Japanese mistake UC Berkeley for UCLA. Worse yet, some think Berkeley is UCLA Berkeley, not UC Berkeley. I have no idea why this happened. I suspect LA conspiracy.

  11. Ken Says:

    Saga Hagakure should take pride in Yoshinogari relics that some scholars advocate as the first unified state in Japan and advertise more as a root to visit for the life of a Japanese.

  12. Paul Says:

    “Why would that make a difference, however?”

    Because despite the fact that English is a mandatory subject in K-through-12 schools there, almost none of them get even the least bit good at it. Even the teachers there are Japanese people who aren’t exactly fluent. I remember Peter Payne’s story about seeing a teacher at an elementary school basically teaching students that something along the lines of “Let’s positive thinking!” was correct English.

  13. ampontan Says:

    Because despite the fact that English is a mandatory subject in K-through-12 schools there, almost none of them get even the least bit good at it.

    The idea was to provide the name of a country identified by a number. I doubt the lack of English ability had much to do with the test results. You don’t need English to figure out the problem.

    I would bet that the number of Japanese fluent in English as a result of their studies is far greater than the number of Americans fluent in a foreign language who grew up in an English-speaking household.

    I continue to be surprised today at how many Japanese are good at English, even in this so-called inaka town where I live.

    Just this morning, I was in an office listening to a woman who has never lived overseas handling, with no problem, a telephone call with a native English speaker in Japan who didn’t know Japanese.

    As anyone who has tried to become fluent in a foreign language knows, telephone conversations present special problems for comprehension.

    I see stuff like this all the time. But that’s just me. Unlike some others, I give the Japanese the benefit of the doubt.

  14. Overthinker Says:

    “I would bet that the number of Japanese fluent in English as a result of their studies is far greater than the number of Americans fluent in a foreign language who grew up in an English-speaking household.”

    This isn’t fair - you should compare the Japanese with, say, those Americans who learn Spanish in high school, or Brits who learn French. Asking how fluent your average American gets in Spanish from high school compared to your average Japanese in English is a much more valid comparison than comparing people who have studied a foreign language with those who haven’t.

    Unless of course you just want to make the point that a lot of Americans are so monolingual they need subtitles to watch the Australian news….

  15. ampontan Says:

    Asking how fluent your average American gets in Spanish from high school compared to your average Japanese in English is a much more valid comparison than comparing people who have studied a foreign language with those who haven’t.

    That was the point I was trying to make, but didn’t express clearly enough

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