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		<title>By: gaijinalways</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/the-real-cultural-imperialism-of-the-west/#comment-13686</link>
		<dc:creator>gaijinalways</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say that the Japanese often exhibit xenophobia in a much less aggressive fashion (as they do with most other things). Certainly you&#039;re aware that there are landlords who refuse foreign tenants on a regular basis, some who have never had a foreign tenant!That and the habitual, &quot;It&#039;s dangerous when I go outside of Japan, I would never want to live (or live permanently) outside of Japan.&quot; voiced by Japanes ewho have traveled very little outside of group tours or not at all.

Since violence and vandalism to property are generally exhibted on a lower scale in Japan(discounting the rash of knife stabbings lately, though generally these are domestic or romantic affairs gone bad), then it is very likely that xenophobia exhibited here will not be the aggressive type but rather the ostracizing type in many cases. 

Whether this is better would depend on whether you think violence or dicrimination is a bigger problem (and also depend on your defintion of how wide spread either problem is in the country you&#039;re talking about). Certainly if you have both rampant xenophobia and violence combined that probably is the worst of both worlds. Luckily that is not the case in Japan at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that the Japanese often exhibit xenophobia in a much less aggressive fashion (as they do with most other things). Certainly you&#8217;re aware that there are landlords who refuse foreign tenants on a regular basis, some who have never had a foreign tenant!That and the habitual, &#8220;It&#8217;s dangerous when I go outside of Japan, I would never want to live (or live permanently) outside of Japan.&#8221; voiced by Japanes ewho have traveled very little outside of group tours or not at all.</p>
<p>Since violence and vandalism to property are generally exhibted on a lower scale in Japan(discounting the rash of knife stabbings lately, though generally these are domestic or romantic affairs gone bad), then it is very likely that xenophobia exhibited here will not be the aggressive type but rather the ostracizing type in many cases. </p>
<p>Whether this is better would depend on whether you think violence or dicrimination is a bigger problem (and also depend on your defintion of how wide spread either problem is in the country you&#8217;re talking about). Certainly if you have both rampant xenophobia and violence combined that probably is the worst of both worlds. Luckily that is not the case in Japan at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: bender</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/the-real-cultural-imperialism-of-the-west/#comment-13148</link>
		<dc:creator>bender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 03:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;And about xenophobia,when was the last time students and bystanders throw stones in foreign embassy in Japan?&lt;/em&gt;

Somehow, if it&#039;s anti-Japan in China or Korea, it&#039;s not counted as nationalism because the Japanese &lt;em&gt;deserve&lt;/em&gt; being thrown stones at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And about xenophobia,when was the last time students and bystanders throw stones in foreign embassy in Japan?</em></p>
<p>Somehow, if it&#8217;s anti-Japan in China or Korea, it&#8217;s not counted as nationalism because the Japanese <em>deserve</em> being thrown stones at.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bern, nationalizing resources IS communism, and Guatemala would&#039;ve been much worse off had that been allowed to go through.  There is a difference between democracy and freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bern, nationalizing resources IS communism, and Guatemala would&#8217;ve been much worse off had that been allowed to go through.  There is a difference between democracy and freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is a lot of love/hate going on about foreigners, but considerably less xenophobia than in Korea or Japan - probably because China is very multi-ethnic already.&quot;

Not so sounding from what I heard from Mongolians coming to Japan from Inner mongolia &quot;autonomous&quot;regions.
Yeah,China is multi-ethnic.But the potion isn&#039;t that high.
And about xenophobia,when was the last time students and bystanders throw stones in foreign embassy in Japan? Perhaps that&#039;s more to do with the so-called freedom of speech that so many expats use it so freely yet do not pay much respect into it.Expats can literally say what ever they want with the country in Japan Times.Not so in Beijing Review.

&quot;Japanese speaking America equals “English teacher.”&quot;

At least she didn&#039;t say that killing phrase&quot;You speak Japanese real well&quot;! or did she?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is a lot of love/hate going on about foreigners, but considerably less xenophobia than in Korea or Japan &#8211; probably because China is very multi-ethnic already.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not so sounding from what I heard from Mongolians coming to Japan from Inner mongolia &#8220;autonomous&#8221;regions.<br />
Yeah,China is multi-ethnic.But the potion isn&#8217;t that high.<br />
And about xenophobia,when was the last time students and bystanders throw stones in foreign embassy in Japan? Perhaps that&#8217;s more to do with the so-called freedom of speech that so many expats use it so freely yet do not pay much respect into it.Expats can literally say what ever they want with the country in Japan Times.Not so in Beijing Review.</p>
<p>&#8220;Japanese speaking America equals “English teacher.”&#8221;</p>
<p>At least she didn&#8217;t say that killing phrase&#8221;You speak Japanese real well&#8221;! or did she?</p>
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		<title>By: RYO</title>
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		<dc:creator>RYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ampontan: “It’s one of the reasons Europe is having so much trouble assimilating its Muslim population. They think assimilation is not a good idea, because our culture is our culture is our culture and your culture is your culture, and that’s they way they should stay.”
–Is this not the failure of the newcomers? Sure, the Europeans may say “this is our culture” but are they also saying “you better stay out of it”?

From what I understand, a lot of the first-generation Turks and others who were brought over to Western Europe a few decades ago were deliberately encouraged to live apart and to have their kids taught primarily in the language of their home country (with funding provided by the state) to enable them to return someday when their labor was no longer needed. Of course, they stayed and the second-generation &quot;immigrants&quot; were largely ill-prepared to actually belong in Western European society. Throw in the emergence of radical imams who were allowed to thrive due to the ever-expanding scope of political correctness and you can see where Europe is now headed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ampontan: “It’s one of the reasons Europe is having so much trouble assimilating its Muslim population. They think assimilation is not a good idea, because our culture is our culture is our culture and your culture is your culture, and that’s they way they should stay.”<br />
–Is this not the failure of the newcomers? Sure, the Europeans may say “this is our culture” but are they also saying “you better stay out of it”?</p>
<p>From what I understand, a lot of the first-generation Turks and others who were brought over to Western Europe a few decades ago were deliberately encouraged to live apart and to have their kids taught primarily in the language of their home country (with funding provided by the state) to enable them to return someday when their labor was no longer needed. Of course, they stayed and the second-generation &#8220;immigrants&#8221; were largely ill-prepared to actually belong in Western European society. Throw in the emergence of radical imams who were allowed to thrive due to the ever-expanding scope of political correctness and you can see where Europe is now headed.</p>
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		<title>By: Shiai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shiai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;m so much better than those other foreigners who go to Japan to teach English&quot;...wank wank wank...&quot;I actually did something to belong there, yeah!&quot;...wank wank wank...&quot;I did my undergrad in Japanese after all&quot;...wank wank wank...&quot;not like those retarded ape non-teachers&quot;...wank wank wank...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m so much better than those other foreigners who go to Japan to teach English&#8221;&#8230;wank wank wank&#8230;&#8221;I actually did something to belong there, yeah!&#8221;&#8230;wank wank wank&#8230;&#8221;I did my undergrad in Japanese after all&#8221;&#8230;wank wank wank&#8230;&#8221;not like those retarded ape non-teachers&#8221;&#8230;wank wank wank&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ponta</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an interesting expat in China who seems to be an different type from the expats  we are talking about.
http://chinabounder.blogspot.com/2006_08_27_archive.html

&lt;blockquote&gt;She asked me 2 or 3 times before we parted if I would teach her small children English! No matter what I said, in her mind a Japanese speaking America equals “English teacher.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Rather in her mind an American who speaks English is kind enough to teach her kids English.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Afterwards, I realized I should have asked if her husband could teach my kids Japanese.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
She might have said, Yes, or instead she might have offered herself as a &#039;Japanese teacher&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an interesting expat in China who seems to be an different type from the expats  we are talking about.<br />
<a href="http://chinabounder.blogspot.com/2006_08_27_archive.html" rel="nofollow">http://chinabounder.blogspot.com/2006_08_27_archive.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>She asked me 2 or 3 times before we parted if I would teach her small children English! No matter what I said, in her mind a Japanese speaking America equals “English teacher.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Rather in her mind an American who speaks English is kind enough to teach her kids English.</p>
<blockquote><p>Afterwards, I realized I should have asked if her husband could teach my kids Japanese.</p></blockquote>
<p>She might have said, Yes, or instead she might have offered herself as a &#8216;Japanese teacher&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: bender</title>
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		<dc:creator>bender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;There is a lot of love/hate going on about foreigners, but considerably less xenophobia than in Korea or Japan - probably because China is very multi-ethnic already.&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m sure if you were Japanese, you would feel strong animosity from the Chinese, and of course, the Koreans.  I mean generally.  It depends on where you come from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>There is a lot of love/hate going on about foreigners, but considerably less xenophobia than in Korea or Japan &#8211; probably because China is very multi-ethnic already.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure if you were Japanese, you would feel strong animosity from the Chinese, and of course, the Koreans.  I mean generally.  It depends on where you come from.</p>
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		<title>By: ghoti</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the view towards foreigners in Japan. After I posted, I wondered if I really had written what I meant - but I just let it go.

There is a lot of love/hate going on about foreigners, but considerably less xenophobia than in Korea or Japan - probably because China is very multi-ethnic already.

The other thought was that there isn&#039;t this large pool of pseudo-teachers in China just struggling to get by. Give it a few years maybe, but for now, they assume most foreigners come over with a talent or skill, or at least money.

Maybe one experience typifies this for me. I ran into a Japanese woman who lived in my building in China. Her husband was working for a Japanese trading company. She asked what I did. I told her that I was in the trading business as well (this was all in Japanese). She asked me 2 or 3 times before we parted if I would teach her small children English! No matter what  I said, in her mind a Japanese speaking America equals &quot;English teacher.&quot;

Afterwards, I realized I should have asked if her husband could teach my kids Japanese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the view towards foreigners in Japan. After I posted, I wondered if I really had written what I meant &#8211; but I just let it go.</p>
<p>There is a lot of love/hate going on about foreigners, but considerably less xenophobia than in Korea or Japan &#8211; probably because China is very multi-ethnic already.</p>
<p>The other thought was that there isn&#8217;t this large pool of pseudo-teachers in China just struggling to get by. Give it a few years maybe, but for now, they assume most foreigners come over with a talent or skill, or at least money.</p>
<p>Maybe one experience typifies this for me. I ran into a Japanese woman who lived in my building in China. Her husband was working for a Japanese trading company. She asked what I did. I told her that I was in the trading business as well (this was all in Japanese). She asked me 2 or 3 times before we parted if I would teach her small children English! No matter what  I said, in her mind a Japanese speaking America equals &#8220;English teacher.&#8221;</p>
<p>Afterwards, I realized I should have asked if her husband could teach my kids Japanese.</p>
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		<title>By: Overthinker</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignoring the bickering, there are a couple of points here that strike me was worthy of further discussion. First, is Coke in Britain truly an example of American cultural imperialism? It&#039;s American, certainly: an iconic image of that country. But to be truly &quot;culturally imperialist&quot; rather than an all-conquering brand-name, shouldn&#039;t it also be very very different to anything British culture had to offer to counter it? British surely had their own carbonated drinks, so Coke is just one more, no? 

(The very very worst form of cultural imperialism is that spread by those damnable missionaries....)

Ampontan: &quot;It’s one of the reasons Europe is having so much trouble assimilating its Muslim population. They think assimilation is not a good idea, because our culture is our culture is our culture and your culture is your culture, and that’s they way they should stay.&quot;
--Is this not the failure of the newcomers? Sure, the Europeans may say &quot;this is our culture&quot; but are they also saying &quot;you better stay out of it&quot;? 

Ghoti: &quot;Foreigners are not looked down upon in China, as they often are in Japan or Korea.&quot;
--Really? I thought that Chinese thought of themselves as the centre of the universe and that foreigners were either barbarians to be fought, or barbarians to be allowed in to pay tribute. That&#039;s the traditional Chinese view of the world anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignoring the bickering, there are a couple of points here that strike me was worthy of further discussion. First, is Coke in Britain truly an example of American cultural imperialism? It&#8217;s American, certainly: an iconic image of that country. But to be truly &#8220;culturally imperialist&#8221; rather than an all-conquering brand-name, shouldn&#8217;t it also be very very different to anything British culture had to offer to counter it? British surely had their own carbonated drinks, so Coke is just one more, no? </p>
<p>(The very very worst form of cultural imperialism is that spread by those damnable missionaries&#8230;.)</p>
<p>Ampontan: &#8220;It’s one of the reasons Europe is having so much trouble assimilating its Muslim population. They think assimilation is not a good idea, because our culture is our culture is our culture and your culture is your culture, and that’s they way they should stay.&#8221;<br />
&#8211;Is this not the failure of the newcomers? Sure, the Europeans may say &#8220;this is our culture&#8221; but are they also saying &#8220;you better stay out of it&#8221;? </p>
<p>Ghoti: &#8220;Foreigners are not looked down upon in China, as they often are in Japan or Korea.&#8221;<br />
&#8211;Really? I thought that Chinese thought of themselves as the centre of the universe and that foreigners were either barbarians to be fought, or barbarians to be allowed in to pay tribute. That&#8217;s the traditional Chinese view of the world anyway.</p>
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