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	<description>Japan from the inside out</description>
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		<title>By: ROK Drop Weekly Linklets - 25NOV07 at ROK Drop</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/a-moral-absurdity/#comment-11209</link>
		<dc:creator>ROK Drop Weekly Linklets - 25NOV07 at ROK Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Great argument from Japan on the moral absurdity of carbon trading. -  I wonder if OJ was in this van.-  Only in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Great argument from Japan on the moral absurdity of carbon trading. -  I wonder if OJ was in this van.-  Only in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/a-moral-absurdity/#comment-11166</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please be careful for the yellow sand which is absorbing poisnous materials like active carbon.
The mercury detected in the US turned out from the power plant in China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please be careful for the yellow sand which is absorbing poisnous materials like active carbon.<br />
The mercury detected in the US turned out from the power plant in China.</p>
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		<title>By: bender</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/a-moral-absurdity/#comment-11153</link>
		<dc:creator>bender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once when I was up in Hokkaido, &quot;yellow dust&quot; came over from China and the snow turned into a caramel-like color, which made them melt away fast and that was about it for the ski season.  Pretty amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once when I was up in Hokkaido, &#8220;yellow dust&#8221; came over from China and the snow turned into a caramel-like color, which made them melt away fast and that was about it for the ski season.  Pretty amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: ampontan</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/a-moral-absurdity/#comment-11144</link>
		<dc:creator>ampontan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken: It was actually OK. But every spring there is a period when it gets hazy in the air due to the dust storms or desert storms that blow dirt over. It&#039;s more noticeable out in the country than in the town, where I live, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken: It was actually OK. But every spring there is a period when it gets hazy in the air due to the dust storms or desert storms that blow dirt over. It&#8217;s more noticeable out in the country than in the town, where I live, however.</p>
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		<title>By: mac</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/a-moral-absurdity/#comment-11137</link>
		<dc:creator>mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is wrong to glorify Gore. Fine, his message is good and it is Hollywood enough to penetrate even Middle America. But his real message is still all about power, wealth and the same American dream that is driving this capitalist planetary suicide. I suspected it would happen, and did, when he was outed for using 21 times the amount of energy as the *AVERAGE AMERICAN*, and God knows how many times more energy those average behemoths consume. 

Its not a right message to send out that &quot;it is still OK to be addicted to over-consumption ... all it has to be is GREEN over-consumption. Its like coming off heroin but moving on to methadone.

We have to remember that a large proportion of that Moaist smog heading over the Japan Sea is pumping out cheap goods for the Wallmart and Home Depot. Its source is not China but America and the American economy that is been exported worldwide. 

Sure Japan is wise to protect itself with subsidies, but who is it subsidizing? The consumers of the world who ought to be paying for their pollution.

Sadly, the real heroes of the environmental movement, the Deep Ecologist, are just too damn tough for the patsies of the Whitehouse or Nobel Institute. Yes, there are a whole bunch of wah-wah ex-spurt paid to confuse the argument and seed minds with confusion. There are billions being spent defending capital from their environmental responsibilities, responsibilities Adam Smith would have been behind shouldering.

Its call internalizing one&#039;s externalities, one&#039;s external costs that never make it onto the balance sheet .. like the cost of species loss, re-forestation, the suffering on folks driven to live in marginal lands due to multi-national corporate influence etc ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is wrong to glorify Gore. Fine, his message is good and it is Hollywood enough to penetrate even Middle America. But his real message is still all about power, wealth and the same American dream that is driving this capitalist planetary suicide. I suspected it would happen, and did, when he was outed for using 21 times the amount of energy as the *AVERAGE AMERICAN*, and God knows how many times more energy those average behemoths consume. </p>
<p>Its not a right message to send out that &#8220;it is still OK to be addicted to over-consumption &#8230; all it has to be is GREEN over-consumption. Its like coming off heroin but moving on to methadone.</p>
<p>We have to remember that a large proportion of that Moaist smog heading over the Japan Sea is pumping out cheap goods for the Wallmart and Home Depot. Its source is not China but America and the American economy that is been exported worldwide. </p>
<p>Sure Japan is wise to protect itself with subsidies, but who is it subsidizing? The consumers of the world who ought to be paying for their pollution.</p>
<p>Sadly, the real heroes of the environmental movement, the Deep Ecologist, are just too damn tough for the patsies of the Whitehouse or Nobel Institute. Yes, there are a whole bunch of wah-wah ex-spurt paid to confuse the argument and seed minds with confusion. There are billions being spent defending capital from their environmental responsibilities, responsibilities Adam Smith would have been behind shouldering.</p>
<p>Its call internalizing one&#8217;s externalities, one&#8217;s external costs that never make it onto the balance sheet .. like the cost of species loss, re-forestation, the suffering on folks driven to live in marginal lands due to multi-national corporate influence etc &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/a-moral-absurdity/#comment-11135</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

I have heard your neighbouring prefectures suffered from opto-chemical smog originated from China this year.
How about your prefecture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>I have heard your neighbouring prefectures suffered from opto-chemical smog originated from China this year.<br />
How about your prefecture?</p>
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		<title>By: Overthinker</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/a-moral-absurdity/#comment-11131</link>
		<dc:creator>Overthinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mad - ironically, the weather prediction for a hundred years from now is probably sounder than that for tomorrow. 

I personally believe the world is warming, and has been for millennia, a few cold snaps (eg the &#039;little ice age&#039; notwithstanding. The degree of recent warming and the involvement of greenhouse gases etc are more debatable, but it&#039;s not warming per se that worries me but increased extreme weather as the global weather patterns readjust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mad &#8211; ironically, the weather prediction for a hundred years from now is probably sounder than that for tomorrow. </p>
<p>I personally believe the world is warming, and has been for millennia, a few cold snaps (eg the &#8216;little ice age&#8217; notwithstanding. The degree of recent warming and the involvement of greenhouse gases etc are more debatable, but it&#8217;s not warming per se that worries me but increased extreme weather as the global weather patterns readjust.</p>
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		<title>By: T.K</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/a-moral-absurdity/#comment-11111</link>
		<dc:creator>T.K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Madne0,

I can&#039;t tell you how the weather is going to be like a week from now, but I can claim that February will be colder than June. Climate study is not weather study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madne0,</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t tell you how the weather is going to be like a week from now, but I can claim that February will be colder than June. Climate study is not weather study.</p>
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		<title>By: T.K</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/a-moral-absurdity/#comment-11110</link>
		<dc:creator>T.K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(above, it should read &quot;hydrate deposits&quot;, obviously. Sorry for the error)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(above, it should read &#8220;hydrate deposits&#8221;, obviously. Sorry for the error)</p>
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		<title>By: madne0</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/a-moral-absurdity/#comment-11102</link>
		<dc:creator>madne0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My view on global warming (which i&#039;m sure all of you have been waiting for with baited breath) is as follows:
When the weather man can tell me with 100% accuracy what the local weather is going to be like 3 days from now, i&#039;ll start giving predictions of the global weather patterns in 10, 20 or 100 years some serious consideration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My view on global warming (which i&#8217;m sure all of you have been waiting for with baited breath) is as follows:<br />
When the weather man can tell me with 100% accuracy what the local weather is going to be like 3 days from now, i&#8217;ll start giving predictions of the global weather patterns in 10, 20 or 100 years some serious consideration.</p>
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