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East Asian childishness

Posted by ampontan on Wednesday, September 26, 2007

THERE IS NO BETTER DEMONSTRATION of the immaturity prevailing in East Asian relations than the situation described in this post at The Marmot.

Pundits occasionally wonder in print why the countries in this region cannot forge closer ties through free trade agreements and other treaties.

They’d have to outgrow their short pants first.

Also, note the excellent observation by the first commenter. Just imagine the soiled underwear worldwide if the design had come from Japan and not South Korea. (I suspect today’s Japanese would have more sense–and pay more attention to detail–than to sign off on that one, however.)

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16 Responses to “East Asian childishness”

  1. Aceface said

    At least the Korean Navy is doing better job with the map than Institute for International Policy Studies!

  2. ampontan said

    Good one!

  3. bender said

    Nationalism is prevalent in E Asia other than in Japan- that’s the real story, no matter how much the Koreans shout and the Chinese rattle and the western medias write about “nationalist” Japan…just see how it went with PM Abe…nobody cared about his “nationalist” ideals (I put into paranthesis because even Abe’s so-called nationalist agenda is much softer than Korea’s- what lame country would name a NEW warship from a disputed territory between a country that’s supposed to be your ALLY?- and notice that Japan did not do anything about it- no mass demonstrations, no harakiri, no finger-chopping, no stupid speech by the PM stating “Takeshima is our land”- who the heck is the real ultra-nationalist nation here? )

  4. pawikirogi said

    ‘(I suspect today’s Japanese would have more sense–and pay more attention to detail–than to sign off on that one, however.)’ ampotan

    ‘there’s no proof they were forced by the military.’ abe on the comfort women

    ‘they were paid higher than the generals.’ ad in wash times from japanese politicians on the comfort women

    ‘the rape of nanjing is a lie; we only killed and raped this many.’ collective japanese nation

    ‘i doubt the japanese have any more sense than the koreans or chinese.’ pawikirogi

  5. Peter Pan said

    I posted this at Marmot’s as well. Please allow me to double post.

    I think it’s also worth wondering what would happen if it was Japan complaining about the logo and not China. China is complaining about this logo (and they should be) and people in Korea are taking notice.

    The ROK also has another logo with a missile (possibly two, but the seconds course isn’t clear) flying at where Japan should be, and when people in Japan complained about it the Korean netizens started talking about 35 years of ….. you know the story. I wonder if the netizens are fighting back China’s complaints with talks of 3,000 years of colonization of Korea? Not likely.

    Of course when a Korean dance team did a stint about Chinese claims to Mt. Baekdu, they apologized instantly after Chinese complaints. Yet the actual members of the Korean government for nice strolls on top of Japanese flags to celebrate the year of friendship.

    I think it’s interesting that all this attention is given to when China complains about Korea’s dog shitting in her yard, but when Korea and her dog go shit in Japan’s yard and Japan complains, Korea drags the cat outside to shit in Japan’s yard too.

  6. bender said

    Peter Pan, the answer to your interest is here:

    “We are superior than the Japanese because we kinda feel that way. Proof? What proof do we need, we’re KOREANS! As the uber-race of East Asia, we are allowed to throw as much crap on inferior races like the Japanese as we feel fit” : the collective Korean mind

    Basically, they throw crap at Japan and the US because they know Japan and US won’t retaliate. As for China, they’re not so sure. I rather of think this attitude as cowardly and childish.

  7. bender said

    oops…forgot to erase “of” when I swithced to “rather” from “kind of”…

  8. Aceface said

    OK.let’s not start attacking ad hominem here everybody.

    The logo was simply a mistake.And if Japanese would make any argument over that ship,it would be the NAME of it and why did they build such ship in the first place,they certainly wouldn’t need that against North Korea.

    ‘i doubt the japanese have any more sense than the koreans or chinese.’ pawikirogi

    Think about the reaction of our new amphibious landing ship would be named as Takeshima!
    (Actually it’s named as Hyuga,either after WW2 era aircraft career or to please governor Higashikokubaru,for Hyuga is an archaic name for Miyazaki.)
    What would be the name of the second ship of the Dokdo class would be?I bet it won’t be Gando.My guess is Donghae(East Sea).

  9. bender said

    It really should be “McArthur”. I wonder why they forgot this great name. Poor lads don’t know much about history.

  10. ampontan said

    http://www.empereur.com/G._Douglas_MacArthur.html

  11. Aceface said

    I dunno.MacArthur might be a little bit of aggressive name for “amphibious landing ship”.Although I admire his military genius especially when I fly over Inchon during the low tide.

    Omar Bradley may be a better choice,for he is less controvercial and (in a sense)wiser man.
    “Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than about peace, more about killing than we know about living.”His words may fits more to the region.

  12. ddd said

    >> who the heck is the real ultra-nationalist nation here?>>

    I’m not defending the logo. But if you’re going to bring Japan into this, try to place things in the context of history.

    If Japan made a logo or named some ship the Takeshima, it would be offensive because it s not Japan that got colonized in the past. Whereas Korea’s Dokdo ship is an objection to aggressor nations with imperialistic ambitions. That’s not so bad. Tactless, yes. But historically not as significant as it would be in the converse.

  13. tomojiro said

    “I’m not defending the logo. But if you’re going to bring Japan into this, try to place things in the context of history.”

    I don’t think that it has to do with context of history nor whether the logo is offensive or not.

    It has simply to do with immaturity. Immaturity to play with symbols of nationalism, and immaturity to get that easly offended with some logo.

    Korea is an advanced nation now. Nobody doubts that. I really don’t think that naming a ship “Dokdo” is good promotion for the image of Korea. Rather the opposite.

  14. Durf said

    @12: What does Takeshima/Dokdo have to do with “imperialistic ambitions”?

  15. bender said

    If Japan made a logo or named some ship the Takeshima, it would be offensive because it s not Japan that got colonized in the past. Whereas Korea’s Dokdo ship is an objection to aggressor nations with imperialistic ambitions. That’s not so bad. Tactless, yes. But historically not as significant as it would be in the converse.

    I’m amazed how one can be so unaplogetic. So Koreans can trash Japan as much as they like, you say. What a go_ -damn privelege you have there. Just give me a break.

  16. Chonko said

    Typical dimwitted, stupid, cowardly behavior that is so indicative of Korean culture..like a 2 year old child. Most children in civilized countries act that way until they mature out of it at around the age of 10. Funny how Koreans continue to think and act like such idiots even into middle age. Must be something in the Dangun or dog meat.

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