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	<title>Comments on: Japan&#8217;s Northern Territories: Still simmering after 60 years</title>
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		<title>By: Overthinker</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2007/02/09/japans-northern-territories-still-simmering-after-60-years/#comment-4363</link>
		<dc:creator>Overthinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another issue with the NTs is that during the Cold War at least they provided a very good early warning net for catching US subs that might want to sneak up to the Maritime Provinces coast.... That issue is not so important, but I bet it&#039;s still part of the problem. 

Not at all sure Russia will sell its land to China. Didn&#039;t they learn from their mistake in Alaska? That would have been strategic gold to own during the Cold War.... 

The Slate article seems to be nothing more than idle speculation about what could technically happen. The implication that Russia swiped it from the Qing in the 1850s also seems misleading: the Qing may have had economic interests in it, such as some lumber and fur perhaps, but it was hardly part of their empire (save a few areas along the border perhaps). To a large extent, it was terra nullius, and that&#039;s the origin of the NT issue in a way - Japan and Russia both started getting serious about the area at about same time - hence the temporary dual occupation of Sakhalin/Karafuto. Then Japan traded its half of Sakhalin to Russia in exchange for the Kuril/Chishima islands (all the way to Kamchatka, not just the current four under dispute, so in that respect Japan is being quite modest in its demands). There has been no long-standing incorporation of the area - it&#039;s colonial territory for both countries, really - so it&#039;s not like Russia is holding, say, Sado.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another issue with the NTs is that during the Cold War at least they provided a very good early warning net for catching US subs that might want to sneak up to the Maritime Provinces coast&#8230;. That issue is not so important, but I bet it&#8217;s still part of the problem. </p>
<p>Not at all sure Russia will sell its land to China. Didn&#8217;t they learn from their mistake in Alaska? That would have been strategic gold to own during the Cold War&#8230;. </p>
<p>The Slate article seems to be nothing more than idle speculation about what could technically happen. The implication that Russia swiped it from the Qing in the 1850s also seems misleading: the Qing may have had economic interests in it, such as some lumber and fur perhaps, but it was hardly part of their empire (save a few areas along the border perhaps). To a large extent, it was terra nullius, and that&#8217;s the origin of the NT issue in a way &#8211; Japan and Russia both started getting serious about the area at about same time &#8211; hence the temporary dual occupation of Sakhalin/Karafuto. Then Japan traded its half of Sakhalin to Russia in exchange for the Kuril/Chishima islands (all the way to Kamchatka, not just the current four under dispute, so in that respect Japan is being quite modest in its demands). There has been no long-standing incorporation of the area &#8211; it&#8217;s colonial territory for both countries, really &#8211; so it&#8217;s not like Russia is holding, say, Sado.</p>
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		<title>By: ROK Drop Weekly Links 5-11FEB07 at ROK Drop</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2007/02/09/japans-northern-territories-still-simmering-after-60-years/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>ROK Drop Weekly Links 5-11FEB07 at ROK Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ampontan has a great posting about the island ownership controversy that the Japanese really do care about, and it is not [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ampontan has a great posting about the island ownership controversy that the Japanese really do care about, and it is not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
		<link>http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2007/02/09/japans-northern-territories-still-simmering-after-60-years/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Japan has a greater chance of recovering some the Kurils than it does trying to recover Dokdo/Takeshima.  The Koreans will never let the islets go no matter what, so it is good to see Tokyo using diplomatic energy to recover islands they have a strong case to win back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Japan has a greater chance of recovering some the Kurils than it does trying to recover Dokdo/Takeshima.  The Koreans will never let the islets go no matter what, so it is good to see Tokyo using diplomatic energy to recover islands they have a strong case to win back.</p>
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		<title>By: haafu</title>
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		<dc:creator>haafu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done and researched article. I was a fan of your postings back when you blogged at Japundit. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done and researched article. I was a fan of your postings back when you blogged at Japundit. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Durf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Durf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 05:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be shocked if Russia ceded any territory to China that still contained substantial natural gas reserves, at least not without charging enough for it to make up for the sales it would have made to China and Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be shocked if Russia ceded any territory to China that still contained substantial natural gas reserves, at least not without charging enough for it to make up for the sales it would have made to China and Japan.</p>
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		<title>By: ampontan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ampontan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 03:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and thank you, James A. Hope to see you here again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and thank you, James A. Hope to see you here again!</p>
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		<title>By: ampontan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ampontan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 03:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Durf:

You ask, &quot;Why would Russia turn its back on a bit of very productive water, especially when it’s located right next door to a huge market willing to pay top yen for the products that come from it?&quot;

Why would it turn its back on its very lucrative Far Eastern territories and all that land in Siberia? Yet that&#039;s what it seems to be doing.

madne0: Yes, I am a big Steyn fan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Durf:</p>
<p>You ask, &#8220;Why would Russia turn its back on a bit of very productive water, especially when it’s located right next door to a huge market willing to pay top yen for the products that come from it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why would it turn its back on its very lucrative Far Eastern territories and all that land in Siberia? Yet that&#8217;s what it seems to be doing.</p>
<p>madne0: Yes, I am a big Steyn fan!</p>
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		<title>By: Durf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Durf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 01:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Northern Territories are all about fisheries rights. And maybe natural gas, although I don&#039;t think anything has been found in those islands to date. Why would Russia turn its back on a bit of very productive water, especially when it&#039;s located right next door to a huge market willing to pay top yen for the products that come from it? 

The &quot;NT Day came and went without rioting&quot; thing isn&#039;t impressive at all when you consider the lack of rioting after Russia shot up the boat of trespassing Japanese fishermen a while back. Is that trial of the skipper still going on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Northern Territories are all about fisheries rights. And maybe natural gas, although I don&#8217;t think anything has been found in those islands to date. Why would Russia turn its back on a bit of very productive water, especially when it&#8217;s located right next door to a huge market willing to pay top yen for the products that come from it? </p>
<p>The &#8220;NT Day came and went without rioting&#8221; thing isn&#8217;t impressive at all when you consider the lack of rioting after Russia shot up the boat of trespassing Japanese fishermen a while back. Is that trial of the skipper still going on?</p>
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		<title>By: James A</title>
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		<dc:creator>James A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a newcomer to this blog too. Excellent place you got here!

Excellent post on the whole Northern Territory issue Ampontan. Seriously, does Russia really need any more territory? They&#039;ve still got the largest country in the world in terms of land mass, even after the USSR broke apart. If anything the Japanese could use some more land, space being a premium here and all. And like you said, the Russians are having enough trouble keeping what they&#039;ve got under control. Chechnya anyone?

And the misreporting from most media certainly doesn&#039;t help. Then again, I&#039;ve never really expected anything substantial about Japanese or Asian affairs from AP.

However, if they do get incorporated back into Japan, there would be some challenges for both the national government and Hokkaido&#039;s prefectual government to overcome. I don&#039;t think there are many ethnic Japanese living on the islands currently, and apparently the level of poverty on the islands is pretty high. It would take time to bring the infrastructure on the islands up to the standards throughout Japan.

Speaking of Northern Territory day, I did see an ad in the local newspaper about a lecture in Sendai relating to the islands. That&#039;s all that caught my eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a newcomer to this blog too. Excellent place you got here!</p>
<p>Excellent post on the whole Northern Territory issue Ampontan. Seriously, does Russia really need any more territory? They&#8217;ve still got the largest country in the world in terms of land mass, even after the USSR broke apart. If anything the Japanese could use some more land, space being a premium here and all. And like you said, the Russians are having enough trouble keeping what they&#8217;ve got under control. Chechnya anyone?</p>
<p>And the misreporting from most media certainly doesn&#8217;t help. Then again, I&#8217;ve never really expected anything substantial about Japanese or Asian affairs from AP.</p>
<p>However, if they do get incorporated back into Japan, there would be some challenges for both the national government and Hokkaido&#8217;s prefectual government to overcome. I don&#8217;t think there are many ethnic Japanese living on the islands currently, and apparently the level of poverty on the islands is pretty high. It would take time to bring the infrastructure on the islands up to the standards throughout Japan.</p>
<p>Speaking of Northern Territory day, I did see an ad in the local newspaper about a lecture in Sendai relating to the islands. That&#8217;s all that caught my eye.</p>
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		<title>By: madne0</title>
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		<dc:creator>madne0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, great blog. Might i be so bold as to assume that you&#039;re a Mark Steyn fan? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, great blog. Might i be so bold as to assume that you&#8217;re a Mark Steyn fan? <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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